Posts by Indian Larry

i already listen to 'the human bible' , 'healingxjw' , 'infinite monkey cage' , 'doctor karl' ,(aussie dude, great science show) , but im on the lookout for more podcasts to subscribe to, science, bible, apologetics, comedy, you know the stuff...

any suggestions?

Indian Larry

I highly reccomend the following podcasts (podcast name in quotes":

"The Apologetic Front" - Episode2

"Unbelievable" with Justin Brierly is excellent

"Truth Matters" - Very good one.

And don't miss "Theopologetics" episode #9 #51 #50 #93 #106 - These are VERY interesting. Listen in order. Let me know what you think.

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The Christian Hope--Is it in Heaven or on Earth?

by DS211 in

so is the christian hope in heaven or on earth?.

in acts chapter 1the question was raised: 6 so when they had assembled, they asked him: lord, are you restoring the kingdom to israel at this time?

7 he said to them: it does not belong to you to know the times or seasons that the father has placed in his own jurisdiction.. notice jesus never said thered be a change in venue, just that it wasnt up to them to know when..... so what is there from both sides?

Indian Larry

Actually here is a debate on the very subject. I have listened to it and I think if you are interested in the heaven/earth question you will enjoy this:

Debate on the “two classes”: All New Covenant Christians will Live Forever in Heaven with Christ

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The Christian Hope--Is it in Heaven or on Earth?

by DS211 in

so is the christian hope in heaven or on earth?.

in acts chapter 1the question was raised: 6 so when they had assembled, they asked him: lord, are you restoring the kingdom to israel at this time?

7 he said to them: it does not belong to you to know the times or seasons that the father has placed in his own jurisdiction.. notice jesus never said thered be a change in venue, just that it wasnt up to them to know when..... so what is there from both sides?

Indian Larry

If you really want to ask your family some questions that will get them thinking but not raise any of the normal "apostate" flags I HIGHLY reccomend listening to this podcast:

http://apologeticfront.com/category/podcast/

The guy never was a witness but he knows them inside out. He is not argumentative or bitter but he raises very good valid questions in a way I have not seen done before. He also has some audio debates with active witnesses for download. I put them on my phone and listen while driving to work. Very Very interesting. Here is a link to a blog post he did on the heaven/earth question.

http://apologeticfront.com/2012/11/10/do-all-faithful-christians-go-to-heaven/

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The Christian Hope--Is it in Heaven or on Earth?

by DS211 in

so is the christian hope in heaven or on earth?.

in acts chapter 1the question was raised: 6 so when they had assembled, they asked him: lord, are you restoring the kingdom to israel at this time?

7 he said to them: it does not belong to you to know the times or seasons that the father has placed in his own jurisdiction.. notice jesus never said thered be a change in venue, just that it wasnt up to them to know when..... so what is there from both sides?

Indian Larry

Here are some scriptures I looked up about this awhile ago.

(Matthew 5:9) . . .”Happy are the peaceable since they will be called “sons of God”

(Matthew 5:1) . . .”Happy are those conscious of their spiritual need since the kingdom of the heavens belongs to them”

(Matthew 5:5) . . .“Happy are the mild-tempered ones, since they will inherit the earth.”

Note: Jesus here is clearly describing those who are called “sons of God” and those to whom the kingdom of the heavens belongs to. Of course the Watchtower teaches us that these ones are ONLY the 144,000, but if that is correct than why does it go on to say that “they will inherit the earth”? These scriptures (and others) show that the “kingdom of the heavens” is on “the earth”

Other scriptures that show that the kingdom of the heavens is the same as the kingdom of God.

Kingdom of the Heavens = Kingdom of God

(Matthew 3:1, 2) . . .In those days John the Baptist came preaching in the wilderness of Ju·de′a, 2 saying: “REPENT, for the kingdom of the heavens has drawn near .”

(Mark 1:14, 15) 14 Now after John was put under arrest Jesus went into Gal′i·lee, preaching the good news of God 15 and saying: “The appointed time has been fulfilled, and the kingdom of God has drawn near . Be repentant,. . .

(Matthew 13:24) . . .Another illustration he set before them, saying: “ The kingdom of the heavens has become like a man that sowed fine seed in his field . . .

(Mark 4:26) . . .So he went on to say: “ In this way the kingdom of God is just as when a man casts the seed upon the ground . . .

(Matthew 19:23) . . .But Jesus said to his disciples: “ Truly I say to YOU that it will be a difficult thing for a rich man to get into the kingdom of the heavens .

(Mark 10:23) . . .After looking around Jesus said to his disciples: “ How difficult a thing it will be for those with money to enter into the kingdom of God!”

(Acts 3:20, 21) . . .and that he may send forth the Christ appointed for YOU, Jesus, 21 whom heaven, indeed, must hold within itself until the times of restoration of all things of which God spoke through the mouth of his holy prophets of old time. . .

Note: If Jesus will be in heaven UNTIL the times of restoration, does that not imply that he will leave heaven to come to restore the earth? In other words he will be in heaven UNTIL the times of restoration, after that time he will not be in heaven any longer he will be on earth as then he will not be in heaven, he will be on earth.

(Acts 1:11) . . .and they said: “Men of Gal′i·lee, why do YOU stand looking into the sky? This Jesus who was received up from YOU into the sky will come thus in the same manner as YOU have beheld him going into the sky.” Note: Jesus coming must be visible according to this scripture. If the apostle “beheld” him going into the sky that means they saw him. If his departure was invisible then they would not have been able to behold or see him. So it seems clear that the manner that they beheld him was visible.

(Matthew 26:29) . . .But I tell YOU, I will by no means drink henceforth any of this product of the vine until that day when I drink it new with YOU in the kingdom of my Father.. . . Note: Jesus here is saying that he will drink from the vine in the kingdom. Are there grapes in heaven?

(Luke 23:39-43) “Truly I tell you today, you will be with me in Paradise” Note: Since the paradise will be on earth, this scripture implies that Jesus be on earth “with” the evildoer. Just the same as with Abraham, Issac and the prophets of old.

(Matthew 8:11) But I tell YOU that many from eastern parts and western parts will com and recline at the table with Abraham and Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of the heavens.

So, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob will be on earth, and the bible says that they will be in the kingdom of god, but the Jehovah’s witnesses can not be in the kingdom of God because that is limited only to the 144,000 according to the “faithful slave”

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DECEPTIVE CROSS-REFERENCING IN NWT

by The Searcher in

in order to "scripturally justify" j.f.

rutherford's rebranding of the bible students by the creation of a designer name which made them stand out from other bible students, the nwt deceptively misuses a verse to perpetuate the falsehood of the unscriptural name, "jehovah's" witnesses!.

(james 2:7) "they blaspheme the fine name by which you were called,* do they not?".

Indian Larry

Marking

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Does anyone know what is happening with Italy's (Rome) Bethel???

by LoisLane looking for Superman in

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there are rumors out, that the italy (rome) bethel is being shut down and putting out to pasture a large portion of the bethel staff.. has anyone heard anything... ?.

the word is that everyone but the most senior members will be let go.

the senior bethel family members will be reassigned.

Indian Larry

What does " receivership/administered by the courts" mean? In the US that is a term used in bankruptcy. Is there a financial aspect of this that I don't see?

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Recording meeting

by Fading Begins in

first 30 min announcing a collection of bibles collected from r & f that is to go on display at bethel.

also accounts of how they "miraculously" received bibles that they didn't think they could get - eg.

geneva bible.. now - watchtower study review as there is no meeting tomorrow..

Indian Larry

Fading Begins, once again HUGE thanks for posting this. If you can upload the audio that would be fantastic. – Thanks!

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Recording meeting

by Fading Begins in

first 30 min announcing a collection of bibles collected from r & f that is to go on display at bethel.

also accounts of how they "miraculously" received bibles that they didn't think they could get - eg.

geneva bible.. now - watchtower study review as there is no meeting tomorrow..

Indian Larry

I do agree with the new translation of John 17:3. Taking in knowledge was never correct. It means KNOWING Jesus. I had a long discussion with my wife and daughter about this very verse last year. I am glad to see that changing for sure.

Did they make any adjustments to John 1:1? Anybody?